Former Obama advisor Van Jones praised President Donald Trump for his appointment of Alice Marie Johnson as his “pardon czar.” On Thursday, Trump named Johnson, who he had pardoned during his first term, to the role at a Black History Month event at the White House. Johnson, previously convicted of nonviolent drug trafficking in Memphis, Tennessee, had served 21 years of a life sentence before Trump commuted her sentence.
Jones expressed his admiration for the appointment during an appearance on Monday’s episode of the On Brand podcast with liberal commentator Donny Deutsch. “He put Miss Alice Johnson – the formerly incarcerated Black woman who he freed while working with Kim Kardashian – he just put her in charge of pardons. That’s huge,” Jones said. “Somebody who has actually been incarcerated, been in the federal system, understands how the Department of Justice screws over people who should be coming home – some people who shouldn’t come home – but a lot of people that should come home, and they get screwed by the pardon office. She’s gonna fix that.”
“As somebody who has worked on criminal justice, as you know, for 30 years, having someone who’s a formerly incarcerated person in charge of going through all these pardons and making sure that people get a fair shot – I think that’s a very good thing,” he continued.
Deutsch quoted a post Jones had written in late January, when he said, “Trump’s heart CAN be touched. He has been moved, many times, to help downtrodden individuals — whether in his employ or in federal prisons (First Step Act). So don’t assume that moral appeals can never work with Trump. In the right forum and circumstances, they can and do.”
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Jones reiterated his previous statements about Trump’s first term in office, noting that Trump invited individuals who had been incarcerated to the White House and allowed them to speak at press conferences. “I don’t remember Biden or Obama or Clinton doing anything remotely like that.” That said, Jones still offered up criticisms of Trump.
“Now I think we are in a five-alarm fire and I would be radically, rabidly opposed to even my beloved Barack Obama doing this stuff. We have a system. It’s not perfect, but it’s designed to work a particular way so that you don’t have a king, you don’t have somebody who just has unchecked power, and he’s just, you know, he’s grabbing authorities that are not allowed,” he said.
For her part, Johnson spoke positively about the president and her new role in an interview with Fox News. “I plan to fulfill the trust that the president has placed in me,” Johnson said. “He’s given me specific marching orders and, actually, I’ve been working on this nonstop since my release. This is really a continuation of the work that I’ve already been doing.
“I’ve brought many pardon cases before the president in the past and one thing I can say about President Trump [is], he was very interested in their families. He wanted to know if they have a solid reentry program in place,” she added.