During a podcast aired Friday with Joe Rogan, Tucker Carlson discussed a conversation he had with a member of Congress about the intelligence community’s influence.

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He noted during one segment (video below):

Members of Congress are terrified of the intel agencies. I’m not guessing at that. They’ve told me that, including people who run the Intel Committee. The people whose job is it to oversee and keep in line these enormous secretive agencies whose budgets we can’t even know — their “black budgets.” They’re the parents, the agencies are the children. They’re afraid of the agencies. That’s not compatible with democracy.

Democracy is a really simple system, even a representative democracy like ours. The people rule, they do so through elections, they express their preferences through voting. They send their people to the capital city to run their government on their behalf.

Whenever you have unelected people who are not accountable to anyone making the biggest decision, you don’t have a democracy. You have something else, another system. I would call it a tyranny or whatever you want to call it. It’s not a democracy.

So that’s like super obvious, it’s playing out in front of everyone and no one cares and no one does anything about it.

And I think the reason is because they’re threatened. And if you look at the committee chairmen who allow this sh*t to happen, year after year after year, they’re all — people say they’re being compromised or blackmailed, I don’t have evidence of that. But I know them, and they all have things to hide. I know that for a fact. And so it is not a stretch of the imagination that some committee chairman who is allowing warrantless spying on Americans to continue or whatever abuse they’re allowing, knowing fully or hiding the truth about UAPs, ignoring the UAP Disclosure Act of 2023. Why are they doing that? It’s not impossible to imagine that some guy with a drinking problem or a weird sex life — and that’s very common up there — that’s why they’re doing it. Because they don’t want to be exposed. I don’t have evidence of that or proof of that, but it is not a crazy thing to assume that could be happening.

I said to somebody, a very powerful person, the other day, in a conversation in my kitchen, an elected official — holds a really senior position, a very famous person. I was going crazy, I was so mad about the warrantless spying, the funding for these insane wars, and said to the guy, who serves in one of the legislative bodies. I was like, “All these people are controlled. They’ve all got weird s*x lives, and all these things they’re hiding, and they’re being blackmailed by the intel agencies.”

And he said, and I’m quoting, “I know.”

I was like, okay, so at this point, we’re just sort of admitting that’s real? Like, why do we allow that to continue?

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